Looking back on a long life with many acquaintances of many different sorts I notice particularly three kinds of people:
1. The most common and numerous might be called 'this-worldly', with a purely materialistic outlook. We might call them secular humanists. (In Walking Through Egypt a frightened old woman shares with her friend the preacher's message about the secular humanists who prowl about, and may wind up in your bedroom doing their bad secular things to you. [But that's a terrible digression!])
2. Other-worldly! Their conversation is in Heaven, and they have little interest in the mundane.
3. A handful of people "go both ways". They combine a keen interest in politics and in heaven (those two forbidden subjects for polite conversation). For them Heaven is not a place where nothing ever happens.
Who are some of these people who "go both ways":
Most notably (in my world of thought) Jesus. He turned over the tables of the money changers and got himself crucified, but he also had direct (continuous) access to what really matters.
Buddha? Well he was certainly a good man, but I haven't heard about any soup kitchens he started. The impression I have of my young American Buddhist friends is that their primary motive was the desire to escape, or dissociate themselves from the false Jesus of the politico-religious hard right. A way out, so to speak.
Blake! for him politics and Heaven were interchangeable, simultaneous (much like Jesus in that respect). According to Kathleen Raine Boehme and Paracelsus, Socrates, Milton, and the Hebrew prophets sometimes "dined with him on the bread of sweet thought and the wine of delight". In the Marriage of Heaven and Hell he reported on dinners with Isaiah and Ezekiel.
The ability to go back and forth at will is the Christian ideal as I understand it. Plato might have called it the golden mean.
Dialogue is welcome. Opposition is true friendship. Let's engage in the "fierce contentions of Eternity".