tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post110970341132983704..comments2023-12-22T03:49:21.303-05:00Comments on Reflections of a Happy Old Man: Two ParadigmsLarry Claytonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11571190213288384302noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1110061604646619502005-03-05T17:26:00.000-05:002005-03-05T17:26:00.000-05:00In the Anglican tradition, we place experience rig...In the Anglican tradition, we place experience right alongside scripture, reason, and tradition.<br /><br />I like the example from Jonah because the book of Jonah is particularly meaningful to me. Whether the "belly of the whale" part is actually literally true or not is irrelevant to me. I see a lot of Jonah in myself: the anger, the impatience, the unwillingness to move beyond my own rigid definitions of what God "should" or "should not" do. And I would hope to learn the lessons God tried to teach Jonah, about the universality of God's love and about God's concern for all creation.<br /><br />Thanks for this post -- I always enjoy reading about Marcus Borg.Darrell Grizzlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01985769455812351926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109985087899199632005-03-04T20:11:00.000-05:002005-03-04T20:11:00.000-05:00That would be an imaginative way of encapsulating ...That would be an imaginative way of encapsulating it, Al. As I understand it, it places experience of God above Church or Bible. As do Quakers.Larry Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571190213288384302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109961137416802402005-03-04T13:32:00.000-05:002005-03-04T13:32:00.000-05:00Al, It could easily be misleading, I see. The Enl...Al, It could easily be misleading, I see. The Enlightenment led to the literal interprations of the "Old Paradigm". The "New Paradigm" might be called Post-Enlightenment in this sense.<br /><br />This Paragraph: "Borg referred to that [tending to major on facts] as the Old Paradigm and emphasis on the spiritual meaning of the Bible as the Emerging Paradigm, which roughly describes what have been known as fundamentalists [majoring on facts] and progressives [emphasis on the spiritual meaning].<br /><br />Al, it's the slavery to the factual of our materialist culture that prevents fundamentalists from seeing anything really spiritual (metaphorical, poetic, mythopoeic) in scripture.Larry Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571190213288384302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109862519169787042005-03-03T10:08:00.000-05:002005-03-03T10:08:00.000-05:00I know the feeling, Jon. I spent the first half o...I know the feeling, Jon. I spent the first half of my life surrounded by them. My life's journey could almost be called an attempt to get away from them. I don't seek their company much at the present time.<br /><br />Of course there are evangelicals and evangelicals. I'm an evangelical in the real sense of the term. It has been used to designate a certain kind of Christian, better described as fundamentalist, it seems to me.Larry Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571190213288384302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109823083109017332005-03-02T23:11:00.001-05:002005-03-02T23:11:00.001-05:00Over the last several years, I've come to experien...Over the last several years, I've come to experience God more and more as non-personal. (I use that word instead of "impersonal" which tends to be off-putting to many.) I now see all names and descriptions of God as metaphors. When I'm around people who unquestioning "believe" God is a distinct personal entity, I have to do some inner translation, especially when it comes to "God's will."<br /><br />I'm convinced that 99% of the time when someone says, "God's will is . . ." it could be better said as "What I really think is . . . "<br /><br />I've been hangin' around evangelicals the last few Sundays. Many, many translations.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772474227432165970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109823074070885602005-03-02T23:11:00.000-05:002005-03-02T23:11:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772474227432165970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109823050217862092005-03-02T23:10:00.000-05:002005-03-02T23:10:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772474227432165970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109768715534751062005-03-02T08:05:00.000-05:002005-03-02T08:05:00.000-05:00Right! In itself God is nothing but a three letter...Right! In itself God is nothing but a three letter word. It carries whatever meaning we choose to attach to it.<br /><br />Borg talked about the students who came to him after class and said, "that's all very well, but I don't really believe in God. Borg said, "tell me about the God you don't believe in."<br /><br />That rejoinder is very apt to develop some commonality for most of those young athests.Larry Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11571190213288384302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009563.post-1109732055832740762005-03-01T21:54:00.000-05:002005-03-01T21:54:00.000-05:00I recall spending a longish train ride with a youn...I recall spending a longish train ride with a young Baptist seminarian. I told her imagine for a moment -- <I>all the names for God mentioned in scripture are not really names at all -- they're job descriptions. Lord of Hosts. Creator. Redeemer. They do not name God so much as tell us what role God plays in our lives. They don't tell us who God is.</I>She nodded. Yes. I can see that.<br /><br /><I>Even the word God.</I>She didn't like where that took her.nathan's shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333649679313721590noreply@blogger.com